By Tim Harris Β· January 29, 2026
Every once in a while, we get an email from a listener that doesnβt just spark a topic β it defines the conversation.
This week, listener Brian sent a note that hit a nerve, because it puts words to what a lot of enthusiasts are quietly realizing:
Porsche may be losing the very thing that made it Porsche.
And while Porsche drifts toward spec culture, options lists, ADMs, and βluxury pricing logicββ¦ Ferrari is out here doing the most Ferrari thing imaginable:
winning.
Hereβs Brianβs email (shared with permission):
Hi Tim,
I just came across your podcast and Iβm really enjoying it. Iβve already been sharing it with some of my car friends.
Iβd be really interested to hear you discuss Porscheβs recent record at Le Mans since Ferrari returned. Iβm honestly quite shocked that Ferrari has managed to beat Porsche three years in a row. Given how much Porscheβs identity is tied to Le Mansβand their incredible history thereβit feels wild that Ferrari could come back after such a long break and immediately dominate. Even Ford has managed to beat Ferrari at Le Mans!
As a long-time customer and fan, I find it pretty disappointing. Iβm also hearing rumours that Porsche may not even have a car entered this year to challenge Ferrari, which makes it even more frustrating.
Putting this in the broader context of Porsche shifting closer to Ferrari in terms of options, pricing, and ADMβwhat do you think their future looks like if the motorsport side doesnβt perform?
Itβs also interesting to me that I can go out and buy the Ferrari 296 - with essentially the same race-derived engine as their Le Mans winning car for relatively reasonable money. Compare that to Porsche, where the closest equivalent is the 918, which trades for multiples of the 296βs price. When you look at it through that lens, Ferrari suddenly starts to feel like a more compelling choice.
Thanks again for the great content.
Brian
Brianβ¦ This is one of the smartest emails weβve ever received.
And yes β weβre absolutely going to cover this in an upcoming episode. But I couldnβt wait, because this topic matters.
Letβs break it down.
Porscheβs Beachhead Has Always Been Racing (Especially Le Mans)
Porsche did not build its reputation on leather-wrapped vents and βPaint To Sampleβ pricing games.
Porsche built its reputation on:
engineering obsession
endurance racing dominance
proving performance where it matters
Le Mans wasnβt just a race Porsche entered.
Le Mans was Porscheβs beachhead.
The proof. The legitimacy. The reason the street cars felt like they mattered.
So when Ferrari returns to top-tier endurance racing and beats Porsche three years in a rowβ¦ that isnβt just βa rough stretch.β
Thatβs symbolic.
It tells the enthusiast market something Porsche never wants the world to believe:
βMaybe Porsche isnβt the standard anymore.β
And if Porsche isnβt the standard anymoreβ¦ then Porsche becomes something else entirely.
Something very expensive, something else.
Porsche Is Quietly Becoming the Brand It Used to Make Fun Of
Brian nailed this framing:
βPorsche shifting closer to Ferrari in terms of options, pricing, and ADMβ¦β
That right there is the story.
Porsche is moving toward Ferrari-like:
pricing
exclusivity theater
dealer gatekeeping
and increasingly absurd option structures
But Porsche doesnβt get Ferrariβs built-in advantages:
rarity
mystique
bespoke client relationships
and (at the moment) motorsport dominance
Porsche is basically trying to sell Ferrari money for Porsche volume, and calling it βbrand strength.β
Thatβs not strength.
Thatβs drift.
The Tip of the Spear Products Are About to Get Stupid
Porscheβs tip-of-the-spear products β GT cars, Turbo halo variants, whatever trophy model drops next β are headed toward a new reality.
Not MSRP reality.
Real-world reality.
Once the market gets done βdiscovering the truth,β weβre talking:
$500k+ transactions
six-figure ADMs
and customers being told they should feel lucky just to participate
And sure, someone will pay it.
Someone always pays it.
But the difference is: Porsche used to dominate a category where there were very few true alternatives.
Now there are many.
Porsche Is Pricing Itself Out of the Market (And Acting Like Itβs a Flex)
At that pricing level β especially once ADMs get involved β Porsche isnβt just selling a sports car anymore. Theyβre asking buyers to make an emotional decision that has to beat logic.
And thatβs the problem: today there are simply too many world-class alternatives, including barely-used exotics, that make Porscheβs pricing feel less like confidenceβ¦ and more like arrogance.
Porsche is betting that the buyer will say:
βYes, I know itβs irrationalβ¦ but itβs a Porsche.β
That worked when Porscheβs motorsport dominance backed it up.
Which brings us back to Brianβs point.
If Porsche Isnβt Winning in Motorsportβ¦ What Exactly Are We Paying For?
Thatβs the heart of the issue.
Porsche has always charged a premium, but it was a premium justified by:
motorsport credibility
engineering leadership
driving purity
and the feeling that βthis wasnβt made by a marketing departmentβ
If that motorsport legitimacy fades, the premium becomes harder to defend.
It becomes luxury-brand pricing.
And luxury brands are fragile. They live and die on perception.
Ferrari Is Quietly Becoming the βSmarterβ Choice (Let That Sink In)
Brian wrote:
βI can go out and buy the Ferrari 296 β¦ for relatively reasonable money.β
That is such a brutal line, because it shouldnβt be true.
Ferrari⦠reasonable?
Yet here we are.
The Ferrari 296 GTB and GTS are astonishing bargains.
Not because theyβre cheap β they arenβt.
But because when you compare them to where Porsche is headed, suddenly Ferrari starts to look like:
the more special product
the better story
the greater sense of occasion
and (increasingly) the more rational purchase
Thatβs Porscheβs problem.
Ferrari doesnβt need to beat Porsche in every category.
Ferrari just needs Porsche to keep making mistakes.
Porsche Doesnβt Become Ferrariβ¦ Porsche Becomes βOld Porscheβ
If Porsche continues to:
retreat from racing (or underperform)
chase Ferrari pricing
encourage spec culture over driving culture
β¦then Porsche doesnβt become Ferrari.
They become:
βThe brand that used to be Porsche.β
And thatβs how icons die:
Not instantly.
Not dramatically.
Not with one bad model year.
But slowly.
One overpriced option list at a time.
Brian β Thank You (And Yes, Weβre Covering This)
Brian, thank you again for the email and for sharing the show with your friends. These are exactly the conversations we want to have on Full Throttle Talk β the ones real enthusiasts are having when the cameras are off and the salesman isnβt listening.
Weβll cover Porsche vs Ferrari at Le Mans in an upcoming episodeβ¦ and more importantly weβll answer the big question:
Is Porsche still building cars for enthusiasts β or are they just building flex products for collectors?
β Tim Harris
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